So how is this for messed up. The girl that won ANTM (Whitney) is considered plus size. She wears an American size 8. Isn't size 8 considered 'medium'? Well I am glad that a 'plus size' girl won, I am a little pissed that they consider medium 'plus size'. I did like how Tyra put it though, she was yes she is plus size in the MODELING world but in the real world she is an amazingly hot woman.

I thought that was messed up too.. she won??? I didn't know this. well, great for her! :D

I'm trying to get to a size 8 right now. good grief. :ack2:

I didn't watch the show so I have no idea what the girl looks like, but according to a piece on sizing in women's clothing that I saw on the CBS morning show, due to "vanity" sizing, a size 8 is actually a size 12. Clothing didn't used to be made in a size zero or double zero, they just added those sizes in an effort to make people like their clothing because they wear a smaller size in it.

I'm not sure if I said that in an understandable manner.....

Did you know that just a few years ago a size 8 was a desirable size? I was watching a rerun of that "fresh prince" show (I have no cable and live in Guatemala... forgive me!) and this "plus-sized" girl said that she wasn't pretty because she was a size 8!!

It went to a size 6 then 4 ...is it a 0 now that everyone wants?! I don't even remember when size 2 was cool...

I'd kill to be a size eight right now... :banghead:

Did you know that just a few years ago a size 8 was a desirable size? I was watching a rerun of that "fresh prince" show (I have no cable and live in Guatemala... forgive me!) and this "plus-sized" girl said that she wasn't pretty because she was a size 8!!

It went to a size 6 then 4 ...is it a 0 now that everyone wants?! I don't even remember when size 2 was cool...

I'd kill to be a size eight right now... :banghead:Apparently what used to be a size 8 is now a size 4. Of course, I still think a size 8 (actually a 12) isn't fat.

Here is a picture of our Full Figured ANTM Winner.

Found a better picture of her.

She looks thin to me.

While I would be over the moon to be as full figured as she is - size 8 is my finaldestination I knwo i will never look like that.. airbrushed or not... (but boy is that swimsuit ever so unflattering on her)

Compared to current models I've seen -she doesn't look thin - she looks fit and athletic - like she'd eat a cheeseburger and drink a beer...

THAT is plus size?!?!?!?! Geez, I must be freaking lard a$$....I would love to be like that!!!

Just goes to show how badly the media has screwed with our heads to insert a totally unrealistic female ideal of "perfection".

That woman is NORMAL. She is in no way, shape or form fat. I find myself resenting the trade that says she is a plus sized anything. Stupid, ignorant gits.

God Bless,
mik

Plus sizes doesn't equal fat...
Full figured doesn't equal fat...

Thanx Mal, that is what I was thinking.
I am sitting here in my size 6 jeans. I am not huge nor superfat, but I do not, by all means look like that girl!! I have flab on my arms and legs and tummy, flab that is not nice and that I am trying to get rid of. My frame is tiny clearly and that is why I fit into size 6, but I am not skinny. If I asked a random person out there if I was skinny, medium, chubby or fat he/she would be between medium and chubby.
If you have a bigger frame, but no fat on your abs you may not fit into size 6, but you would be thinner than me!

Camy

So if an 8 today is really a 12, then at a size 10 or 12 I'm really a size 14 or 16? That kinda stinks...

It's sad how obsessed people are today with being tiny. I feel SO sorry for my nieces, who are 15 and 13 and are SO afraid they'll get "fat." They're tiny now...in fact, the 15 year old is so skinny her parents and I wish she would gain weight. I was lucky enough to grow up when super skinny wasn't the totally "in" thing to be. "Big" was bad, but women weren't expected to be as small as they are today.

I'm always watching the girls when they spend any time with me, to make sure they aren't pushing themselves TOO much to be thin. It's stuff like this "plus size" model, at size 8, that just makes me sick.

in Tim Gunn's style book -he really drives home the point that the size of the garment doesnt matter that it's fit that matters... and you should always take 3 sizes into the fitting room with you - the size youo think you are, the size smaller andthe size larger -and see what looks best - you've got stores like Old navy that things run huge.. and other stores that thigns run small.. Size does not matter

But in his book, he points out that if you went into a vintage clothing store -and if you were currently wearing a size 8 - you wouldn't get your big toe into a size 8 from the 50s, 60s or even 70s (probably not 80s either) because the sizes thenwere much smaller...

And I'll say the same thing when people obsess over the scale - no one knows what you weight -the same thing applies to size - clothing (except levis jeans) do not have the sizes on theoutside - who cares what size you wear - as long as it looks decent... It's what a person sees in the mirror...

Tim Gunn is amazing....he is so good with ALL body styles and making them look decent.

Wow... I am in between a 5/6 and a 7/8 sometimes. After dropping 106 pounds and going from a size 22 to what I am today... its nice to know that after all the work I have done... I'm still plus sized :rant::puke:c:piggy:

If Whitney is plus sized, then I'm.....super jumbo humongous sized.

plus sized models rock, I wanna be one!

I'm a big fan of ANTM and BNTM and often read up on the online forums about the shows. Obviously a lot of rumors and untruths grace the internet about the contestants, but these photos of Whitney have been posted on numerous sites, and I think you can see it's definitely her. Apparently, she was told that at the size she is in these photos, as a size 4, she was too fat to be a normal model, and either had to lose weight or gain weight and become what is considered 'plus size' if she had any chance of succeeding in the industry.

Whitney 01 (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitney01pj5.jpg)
Whitney 02 (http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitney02ih9.jpg)
Whitney 03 (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitney03mz0.jpg)

She's not a size 8. She wouldn't have qualified to be a plus size model if she had been. Remember last season a plus size model made it quite far, but she more or less got elimated because she lost weight and was then a "normal" size. Plus Size Model is size 12-14 I believe..(or was it 12-16).

I'm a big fan of ANTM and BNTM and often read up on the online forums about the shows. Obviously a lot of rumors and untruths grace the internet about the contestants, but these photos of Whitney have been posted on numerous sites, and I think you can see it's definitely her. Apparently, she was told that at the size she is in these photos, as a size 4, she was too fat to be a normal model, and either had to lose weight or gain weight and become what is considered 'plus size' if she had any chance of succeeding in the industry.

Whitney 01 (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitney01pj5.jpg)
Whitney 02 (http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitney02ih9.jpg)
Whitney 03 (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitney03mz0.jpg)

I wonder if those pictures are photoshopped.

Very interesting about how sizes have changed through the years. Mal thanks for the tip from Gunn's book about taking in the 3 sizes to the dressing room...I will do that next time. It really is weird how a body can range from a 5 to a 12, depending upon the garment and which company makes it. For myself, I think the winning gal looks absolutely lovely, and find it refreshing to see a lady with some meat on her bones in the modeling industry! She certainly looks more "real" than most of the models do.

JM2C
ABBA

I wonder if those pictures are photoshopped.

No, those are actually her.

I remember reading somewhere that the producers of America's Next Top Model told Whitney that if she gained weight and became a plus size that she was guarenteed to win Americas Next Top Model... Who wouldn't take that deal? Especially to boost your career.

Which does make sence, considering all of Tyra's talk shows deal with self image issues and how women of each size are beautiful. Plus, all the crap she's getting for not being as thin as she was before.

However, eventhough they put a plus size label of her, it's false advertizing because her being a plus size model is suppose to make us plus-size gals feel better about ourselves... but I know for sure that once I get to a size 12 or 8 (or even other people) I'm going to be compairing myself to this 'plus size' model and wondering why I dont look like that and feel worse about myself.

That could possibly be why the picture of her in that white toilet paper looking bathing suit of her looks quite fit instead of flabby. I mean, if you are skinny and fit to begin with, wouldn't it be possible for her to gain weight evenly? I mean, that's what body builders do... right?