Can i hear from people who lost allot of weight and did not set foot into a gym ? or is a gym 100% neccesary in the final stages of toneing ... and buy gym i mean equipment be it at home or in the gym...

just curious as to who lost weight naturally

Can i hear from people who lost allot of weight and did not set foot into a gym ? or is a gym 100% neccesary in the final stages of toneing ... and buy gym i mean equipment be it at home or in the gym...

just curious as to who lost weight naturally


Naturally? Is weight lost through a fitness program somehow unnatural?

Personally I would say exercise is necessary at every stage of the journey and for the rest of your life. I would venture a guess that the most successful losers/maintainers here are also hitting the gym or exercising at least 3x a week if not more.

Speaking personally, I go to the gym 6x a week. My weekday workout is 20 minutes of cardio followed by 20 minutes of strength training. I also do conditioning exercises (like ab work) at home most days of the week. My weekend workout is usually double what I do on a weekday.

In short: you need to exercise unless there's a compelling medical reason not to, and that's not a judgment any of us can make.

by naturally i ment not using equipment, i know allot of well toned people that dont work out, but due to day to day activities they stay in shape, im not agaist the gym, but it just seem like something that the typical person will not commit to for long periods of time

by naturally i ment not using equipment, i know allot of well toned people that dont work out, but due to day to day activities they stay in shape, im not agaist the gym, but it just seem like something that the typical person will not commit to for long periods of time

That's a pretty big assumption.

It does seem that you're anti-gym. That's fine; do what works for you. However, it's a little insulting to imply that those of us who use a gym are not losing weight "naturally".

Toning is a by product of fat loss... you lose the fat - whatever muscle underneath starts to show...

Exercise helps to speed up the process

Strength training - whether it be with equipment or body weight alone -helps to maintain the muscle that you currently have... If you are in caloric deficit you aren't goint to gain big bulging muscles - and i'm not sure if you're female or not - but i think you are -as a female you're genetically predispostioned to NOT gain bulging muscles...

I lost my first 100lbs by simply walking... and doing reasonable body weight exercise.. the next 100 came off wiht a gym membership -- and the only thing that changed there was walkng faster and adding in more weight to strength training...

You don't need a gym... but it doesnt hurt...

Trust me, im not trying to insult, im on my way to going to the gym myself .... come on, im just seeking answers ... you see yourself going to the gym for years to come ?

are you expecting to lose the weight and then be done with exericse and eating right? :D

this should be a lifestyle change -so I do expect to be working out for the rest of my life to maintain the work i've put in ...

Toning is a by product of fat loss... you lose the fat - whatever muscle underneath starts to show...

Exercise helps to speed up the process

Strength training - whether it be with equipment or body weight alone -helps to maintain the muscle that you currently have... If you are in caloric deficit you aren't goint to gain big bulging muscles - and i'm not sure if you're female or not - but i think you are -as a female you're genetically predispostioned to NOT gain bulging muscles...

I lost my first 100lbs by simply walking... and doing reasonable body weight exercise.. the next 100 came off wiht a gym membership -- and the only thing that changed there was walkng faster and adding in more weight to strength training...

You don't need a gym... but it doesnt hurt...

thanks for the imput .. im male :patriot: lol .. thing is im excited to go to the gym, as i really want to tone and scult, but what i fear is that if and when i reach that stage will i still have to push to continue for years and years to come ...

and after hitting the gym for years, when you stop dont you get outta shape faster than how you got into it ... ?

are you expecting to lose the weight and then be done with exericse and eating right? :D

this should be a lifestyle change -so I do expect to be working out for the rest of my life to maintain the work i've put in ...

:biggrinjester: naw, when i go to the gym, i see mainly people age group of 19-39 a few older ,,, just thiking that in the long run the gym cannot be a life long thing ?? but staying in shape can so learing how to without the gym would be a plus

I'm older than 39 - and I live in a very young area - I do see people older than I am at the gym.. For some it's a lifestyle and like goingto the gym to get away...

my father is 75 years old and has a home gym... and is in great shape physically... he works out every single day and has never had a gym membership - he works out and home because that is what works out for his busy schedule...

you have to do what's right for you and expect it to work for the rest of your life

:biggrinjester: naw, when i go to the gym, i see mainly people age group of 19-39 a few older ,,, just thiking that in the long run the gym cannot be a life long thing ?? but staying in shape can so learing how to without the gym would be a plus

Some people have gone to the same gym 3x or more per week for years. Decades.

There used to be a fitness club near my parents' house that was there for 25 years. You should have heard the HOWLS when they closed it. Some people in the neighborhood had been going there several times per week since it opened. I guess not ENOUGH of them went to keep it open, or the real estate was simply too valuable to run a health club on it.

If you don't want to join a gym, fine. That's your choice. Plenty of people lose large amounts of weight without joining a gym. Personally, I could not simply throw on a pair of sneakers and jog my way to fitness. I don't like to jog. I like to work out in an air conditioned room on a machine that measures my heart rate for me among other things, where I can listen to music or watch TV. The weight I lose in this manner is no less "natural" or "real" than the weight you lose jogging or walking. Period.

Personally, I enjoy going to the gym and can see myself doing it for years to come, if not forever. Just because you don't doesn't mean other people won't, or that we'll fail at weight loss or maintenance because we don't know how to do it any other way. That's asinine.

dont see why you getting so defensive ... :blush5: im not attacking you and the gym ... just asking questions and getting info so chillax :party:

dont see why you getting so defensive ... :blush5: im not attacking you and the gym ... just asking questions and getting info so chillax :party:

I just don't think it's appropriate to criticize what works for other people.

Personally I would not and could not jog my way to fitness but I'm not going to fault you or say your weight loss isn't "natural" because you do jog. You do what works for YOU, I'll do what works for ME.

i was just being technical , i didnt say it eont work .. technically using quipment is not natural ... and for the last time, im heading to the gym myself so why would i be knocking it lol ... its all good

i was just being technical , i didnt say it eont work .. technically using quipment is not natural ... and for the last time, im heading to the gym myself so why would i be knocking it lol ... its all good

No prob. I used to do middle distance running (not sprints, but not marathons either) and it wrecked my knees. I couldn't jog now even if I wanted to. Maybe when I get to a healthier weight and there's less stress on my knees, I could try it...but if I did it now I'd be in agony for days! The gym is also good for those of us who do need guidance and the financial motivation of not wasting our money. My gym membership isn't expensive but it's not free either. :biggrinjester:

are you expecting to lose the weight and then be done with exericse and eating right? :D

this should be a lifestyle change -so I do expect to be working out for the rest of my life to maintain the work i've put in ...

Exactly. Anyone can just drop pounds, go back to their old habits of poor exercise and nutrition, and they'll gain them right back. I've done that before.

It's not about numbers anymore. I want to be healthy for the rest of my life. I'm 19 and I actually think I'm one of the younger ones at my gym. I see A LOT of older people in there. I actually saw an OLDDDDDDDDD dude in there yesterday. By old I mean he has his walker and was just walking around the machines. It was awesome.

Exactly. Anyone can just drop pounds, go back to their old habits of poor exercise and nutrition, and they'll gain them right back. I've done that before.

It's not about numbers anymore. I want to be healthy for the rest of my life. I'm 19 and I actually think I'm one of the younger ones at my gym. I see A LOT of older people in there. I actually saw an OLDDDDDDDDD dude in there yesterday. By old I mean he has his walker and was just walking around the machines. It was awesome.

I go at the same time every day and there's always a gaggle of old ladies from a swim class changing back into their regular clothes in the dressing room. Some of them look well past 75-80 years old. I think that's awesome.

guess it happens mostly where i live .. firstly about 4 gyms here .. all young people, and when i went to get info the people there starting making jokes that if i sign up and come for more than one year they pay me lol .. just that they saying the lifespan of the average person coming to the gym is like 8mhts .. which i think is kinda bad, so i wanted a wider scope on things

Can i hear from people who lost allot of weight and did not set foot into a gym ? or is a gym 100% neccesary in the final stages of toneing ... and buy gym i mean equipment be it at home or in the gym...

just curious as to who lost weight naturally



I know someone who lost weight without a gym. They looked flabby and messy, but they lost weight.

I know someone who lost weight without a gym. They looked flabby and messy, but they lost weight.

yeah, ive seen that happen ... as mentioned above some type of excercise toning is almost necesarry ... im just searching fr options that can compare to a gym :gnorsi:

case in point, i work in the construction industry and the guys doing the manual labour often times are cut like rocks, they basically getting a gym workout on the job which i think i kinda cool.. some of my close friends play soccer every sunday for the most part so thats something im gonna join in on as well...

either way i cant wat to hit the gym :gnorsi:

You're right about the construction workers, they are rocking the muscles.

I would think you could get tone without machines, you just have to be creative.

Originally Posted by MissJellyBelly V
I know someone who lost weight without a gym. They looked flabby and messy, but they lost weight.

Gee that gives me so much hope for the future considering I can't get a gym membership ^-^


* no offense was intended by the above comment

Gee that gives me so much hope for the future considering I can't get a gym membership ^-^


* no offense was intended by the above comment

how comes ......................

Gee that gives me so much hope for the future considering I can't get a gym membership ^-^


* no offense was intended by the above comment
You don't need a gym - it's in a person's best interest to exercise... both for the vanity purpose... and for your long term health...

You dont need a gym for body weight exercise... you don't need a gym to go out and walk/jog/run...

*nods* I exercise plenty without a gym and it seems to be working, slowly but surely. I knowI can lose weight without a gym.

It was more the oh well without gym equipment you will be all flabby and gross once the weight is off comment. that only with gym equipment I can keep my skin from sagging and what not.

When I was 14 and went from 190 to 140 with diet alone. I was relatively slim at that point but I still had a belly. Once I lost the weight I dropped a lot of my good eating habits and a few years down the road I weighed in at 300.

From my experience now I'd say that working out/going to a gym makes it a lot easier to keep the weight off without having to worry about every single little thing you're eating

how comes ......................

No monies ^-^ it's a common problem so it's not like I'm the only one who can't

No monies ^-^ it's a common problem so it's not like I'm the only one who can't

Ohhhh .... whats the cost like in your area ?

Some good alternatives to not going to the gym are buying a bowflex or some other piece of machinery. I personally enjoy going to the gym everyday. It not only helps maintain your body but helps relieve stress, plus for me its something ONLY for me.

People say they never have enough time for themselves, so being at the gym is my time for myself. Just something to think about.

However, I also agree with everyone here. You don't necessarily need a gym. I only own one piece of exercise equipment, a pull up bar at my house. I do push ups, sit-ups, crunches, leg lifts, and yoga, P90x, and run around my neighborhood(on the days I don't go to the gym).

Also, picking a gym is hard. You have to find somewhere your comfortable, if the place doesn't feel right when you try it out, go onto the next one. Also, If your not a morning person I would suggest finding (if you do get a membership somewhere) a place that is near/on the way to and from work, that way you can stop and workout before going home instead of finding an excuse not to go.
(ex. too far away, i'll just go home for a little bit after work, etc.)

Just some things to consider.

are you expecting to lose the weight and then be done with exericse and eating right? :D

this should be a lifestyle change -so I do expect to be working out for the rest of my life to maintain the work i've put in ...

That's just it. I won't necessairly be able or want to find time to go to the gym for the rest of my life, or even have to money to do it (and I actually don't have the money for it right now, anyways). But being outside, walking, biking, running, they're all activities I love to do outdoors (even at my weight), and have loved to do outdoors since I was a young child. I go outside for the love of the outdoors, so wouldn't it make sense for me to learn to incorporate good exercise into my current lifestyle instead of trying to force myself into a gym, where I actually hate to be?

I don't see a gym being a long term solution for me, but I know doing exercise outside on my own realistically could be.

you make a good point .. the gym sadly for allot is just too expensive, so alternatives are a must.. so for the people that can afford the gym you will always gravitate towards it ...

Naturally? Is weight lost through a fitness program somehow unnatural?

Personally I would say exercise is necessary at every stage of the journey and for the rest of your life. I would venture a guess that the most successful losers/maintainers here are also hitting the gym or exercising at least 3x a week if not more.

Speaking personally, I go to the gym 6x a week. My weekday workout is 20 minutes of cardio followed by 20 minutes of strength training. I also do conditioning exercises (like ab work) at home most days of the week. My weekend workout is usually double what I do on a weekday.

In short: you need to exercise unless there's a compelling medical reason not to, and that's not a judgment any of us can make.

Hey Texas Gal, give the guy some slack. He asked about toning his body not weight loss through exercise. I have done it both ways and the healthiest way is through proper nutrition not OCD workouts which is definitely unnatural.

In short: you do not need to exercise to lose excess fat.

Can i hear from people who lost allot of weight and did not set foot into a gym ? or is a gym 100% neccesary in the final stages of toneing ... and buy gym i mean equipment be it at home or in the gym...

just curious as to who lost weight naturally

I lost 108 lbs of fat through good nutrition and moderate walking. Natural, as you say.

So, the gym is not necessary and in fact can be counter-productive in many ways for weight loss. Toning muscles is another matter.

Hey Texas Gal, give the guy some slack. He asked about toning his body not weight loss through exercise. I have done it both ways and the healthiest way is through proper nutrition not OCD workouts which is definitely unnatural.

In short: you do not need to exercise to lose excess fat.

How do you expect to 'tone' without doing resistance training? It's kinda essential.

The only thing that is UNnatural with losing weight is getting plastic surgery.

If people want to work there butts off instead of being lazy and not exercising please do not put them down by calling their method 'unnatural'. Its a lot of hard work, something you dont seem to know anything about.

OP: You should be exercising 30 minutes a day, enough to get your heart rate up, for your health. Although it will help fat loss greatly.

How do you expect to 'tone' without doing resistance training? It's kinda essential.

You need to re-read my posts. Where did I say BIGGZ should not do resistance training?

The only thing that is UNnatural with losing weight is getting plastic surgery.

The only thing? How about abusing diuretics and laxatives, Bulimia, Anorexia, and Obsessive exercise?

If people want to work there butts off instead of being lazy and not exercising please do not put them down by calling their method 'unnatural'.

I will put anyone down that promotes compulsive exercise and other unhealthy behavior

Its a lot of hard work, something you dont seem to know anything about.

Yikes! Are you a psychic?

You should be exercising 30 minutes a day, enough to get your heart rate up, for your health. Although it will help fat loss greatly.

Ah! You are a physician, and/or an exercise physiologist! Perhaps a trainer and a psychic? Look, since you do not know ANYTHING about my health take your 30 minutes a day and stick it where the moon doesn't shine, Sheila.

Relax people lol .. no need to catfight...

At the end of the day we establish that the gym is not needed but excersize is needed to tone .. but hey dont some people look ok without toneing ?

and to tackle the whole 'natural' 'un-natural' why does it seem to offend allot of the gym people ? come on walking in the park is natural .. walking on a treadmil is natural but the process by which you are doing it is not natural your using man made equipment that allows you to replicate natural movement... so i see no need to get upset and defensive.

but hey dont some people look ok without toneing ?
Toning is a byproduct of fat loss...

Some people have good genetics that leave them with decent muscles under the fat - but if their genetics are that good, then they probably don't have much fat to begin with.

If a person has a lot of weight to lose, then they are best served by doing some form of strength training from the get-go (with a gym or without) because when you are eating at caloric deficit -you lose muscle. Strength training will help maintain those muscles you do have.

With regards to walking - as long as you are progressing, and getting your heart rate up - doesn't matter how you go about doing it - treadmill or outside...

Hey Texas Gal, give the guy some slack. He asked about toning his body not weight loss through exercise. I have done it both ways and the healthiest way is through proper nutrition not OCD workouts which is definitely unnatural.

In short: you do not need to exercise to lose excess fat.

OCD workouts? Excuse me, but who do you think you are to walk in here with only 9 posts and accuse people on this board of having eating disorders or obsessive-compulsive disorder?

OP: You should be exercising 30 minutes a day, enough to get your heart rate up, for your health. Although it will help fat loss greatly.

ITA.

The only thing? How about abusing diuretics and laxatives, Bulimia, Anorexia, and Obsessive exercise?


How dare you come in here and accuse people in here of unhealthy behavior.


I will put anyone down that promotes compulsive exercise and other unhealthy behavior


And I will put down newbies who don't know what they're talking about.


Ah! You are a physician, and/or an exercise physiologist! Perhaps a trainer and a psychic? Look, since you do not know ANYTHING about my health take your 30 minutes a day and stick it where the moon doesn't shine, Sheila.

What are YOU? Who are YOU to come in here and talk to us that way?

Ah! You are a physician, and/or an exercise physiologist! Perhaps a trainer and a psychic? Look, since you do not know ANYTHING about my health take your 30 minutes a day and stick it where the moon doesn't shine, Sheila.

EVERYONE knows you should be doing 30 minutes of exercise per day for your health.

You don't need to be a doctor to figure out that.

I've worked with hundreds of people with ED's (going back to 1987) with coursework in Dietetics and Nutrition (no interest in clinical work, so passed on the degree). I doubt that you have read anything I have written besides the 2 posts that got up your nose. Lurking this forum for about a year and a half but only joined when I had something to say which was actually days after you did. So, you can call me a newbie but if you think that the value of a posting is in any way related to the number of posts you are just plain goofy.

:newbie:

I've worked with hundreds of people with ED's (going back to 1987) with coursework in Dietetics and Nutrition (no interest in clinical work, so passed on the degree). I doubt that you have read anything I have written besides the 2 posts that got up your nose. Lurking this forum for about a year and a half but only joined when I had something to say which was actually days after you did. So, you can call me a newbie but if you think that the value of a posting is in any way related to the number of posts you are just plain goofy.

:newbie:

No one cares what your credentials are, your advice sucks.

You advised AGAINST exercising for 30 minutes per day, who the hell would take your advice?

No one cares what your credentials are, your advice sucks.

You advised AGAINST exercising for 30 minutes per day, who the hell would take your advice?

That post was for txsqlchick who did want to know my credentials, not you.

Where did I say not to exercise 30 minutes per day?

Where did I say not to exercise 30 minutes per day?

You gave your opinion on the matter below, in quite a rude way.


since you do not know ANYTHING about my health take your 30 minutes a day and stick it where the moon doesn't shine, Sheila.

So yup.

Rude and wrong!

You gave your opinion on the matter below, in quite a rude way.

I see your problem... you don't read well nor understand English. You answer other peoples posts. Sounds serious. Yep. You should be giving advice in the "Advanced Weight Loss" thread. This isn't your first flame war either. This could be fun for a while except you are so f**king shallow and ignorant it will never get beyond what "EVERYONE" knows, because you are following what EVERYONE does and we know how great you are doing, so spread the word! Like the man said in the sticky for this thread, "Suck it up, Princess".

I see your problem... you don't read well nor understand English. You answer other peoples posts. Sounds serious. Yep. You should be giving advice in the "Advanced Weight Loss" thread. This isn't your first flame war either. This could be fun for a while except you are so f**king shallow and ignorant it will never get beyond what "EVERYONE" knows, because you are following what EVERYONE does and we know how great you are doing, so spread the word! Like the man said in the sticky for this thread, "Suck it up, Princess".

Did that make sense to anyone else?

You are a complete retard, no joke.

DJAdam, putting others down isn't exactly a form of presenting yourself in a serious manner. You want people to take you seriously? Present yourself in that manner.

I, too, took it that you disregarded 30mins of exercise as something that shouldn't be done. Maybe that wasn't your intention but keep in mind:

Through type, lots of things can be mistrewed and misinterepted. IF you don't want others picking you apart, type as clear as you can, explain yourself if you must.

But calling someone "fucking ignorant" wont get you anywhere.

Things Austin_88 has said, are in compliance to stickies. Stickies that Steve himself wrote. Steve, being someone who knws what hes speaking about.

As far as Austin_88 being shallow and following?? Technically, we're ALL followers here, we're all following the advice given, we're adapting it to ourselves, and we're making our progress, some slow, some fast, some struggling, some breezing through.

Its not up to you to tell someone what or how they are.

DJAdam, putting others down isn't exactly a form of presenting yourself in a serious manner. You want people to take you seriously? Present yourself in that manner.

I, too, took it that you disregarded 30mins of exercise as something that shouldn't be done. Maybe that wasn't your intention but keep in mind:

Through type, lots of things can be mistrewed and misinterepted. IF you don't want others picking you apart, type as clear as you can, explain yourself if you must.

But calling someone "fucking ignorant" wont get you anywhere.

Things Austin_88 has said, are in compliance to stickies. Stickies that Steve himself wrote. Steve, being someone who knws what hes speaking about.

As far as Austin_88 being shallow and following?? Technically, we're ALL followers here, we're all following the advice given, we're adapting it to ourselves, and we're making our progress, some slow, some fast, some struggling, some breezing through.

Its not up to you to tell someone what or how they are.

I am glad someone else sees where I am coming from, thank you.

remember you dont need 30mins of actual 'routine' excersive i think thats the misconception ... an active person on the job or school will get a 30 min or more workout naturally without even knowing it

Great thread,I love an argument.

I weight train 5x per week because at the end of this I would like to get muscular,as my son terms it "A meat head".I want to look like a 210lb weightlifter I dont want to be a 180lb "normal bloke",just being slim is not my goal.

That is the reason I have done no cardio,my weight loss is fine with a calorie deficit and the weight lifting,I have no ambitions to be able to run a 5k,its not essential to what I want and I could not imagine doing it forever(I have just started hill walking this week to get a bit fitter)but to be honest I could not keep it up forever and once I get to goal weight and am generally healthier that will be the first to go,it does not light my fire in the same way the weights do.

I think in the scheme of things it is all about your goals,if you want to lose weight then a calorie deficit is all that is needed,if you want to improve fitness cardio is essential,and if you want to be muscular resistance training is essential.

that being said, resistance traning or weight training has to be done in a gym like manner with mechanical equipment ?? or can situps/crunches/pull ups/running/swimming do the trick just the same to cut a nice muscular body :gnorsi:

that being said, resistance traning or weight training has to be done in a gym like manner with mechanical equipment ?? or can situps/crunches/pull ups/running/swimming do the trick just the same to cut a nice muscular body :gnorsi:


Apart from the pull ups and situps/crunches your other examples are not really resistance training,however full bodyweight routines kick your ass google them and try them,I use weights because I like to do it,but you can get the same results from press ups(various kinds),dips,lunges,medicine balls and a million other exercises.Gymnasts look pretty good and I dont assume they pump iron all week

I dont know if you can link websites on here but on the net a bloke called "mr low bodyfat" has had amazing results using just bodyweight,he has gone fromm 300+lbs to abs.

that being said, resistance traning or weight training has to be done in a gym like manner with mechanical equipment ?? or can situps/crunches/pull ups/running/swimming do the trick just the same to cut a nice muscular body :gnorsi:
One of my favorite blogs about fitness is written by a bigger smart ass than I am... and he had a entry a few months back where he was ranting about the amount of "get great abs" products on the market... between videos, to equipment, to pills you can pop.

His opinion, everyone has great abs... EVERYONE... it's just that on the majority of people -they're covered by fat...

Fat does not turn into muscle... Muscle does not turn into bigger muscle unless you're eating more calories than you are currently eating... You want the nice muscular body - you need to lose the fat...

You should also be doing at very minimum body weight exercises to hold onto the muscle you do have...

koool ...

I also check out some " in house ghetto / Fitness From the streets " workouts

YouTube - GHETTO STREET WORK-OUT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPW4jrPrR-8)

YouTube - Fitness From the streets Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S22r01K_p5E)

Only problem is.... these guys are fit beyond fit and will eat up any gym buff for lunch lol

I also love to watch free running vids ...

YouTube - Ryouko Free Running (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbFsO4DcD88)

YouTube - Team Ryouko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOp4kNQF_Ec)